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Originally Posted by Eric12407
I think we can agree that the mind and our thoughts are "without material form or substance". And yet the expression of the mind and our thoughts shapes everything we accomplish in the material world. So the metaphysical and material are one and are intimately connected.
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No, we don't agree. I can say that the nervous system is capable of certain functions and actions that are objectively testable, and that damage to the nervous system has effects on those functions. People don't walk and talk without brains. They do show specific impairment with specific damage.
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It is just as real as our material reality ... but invisible .. but pretty hard to dismiss as non existent.
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Sounds like my backyard elf claim. Invisible, undetectable, but how do you prove it doesn't exist? However, is that any reason to accept that it does?