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Originally Posted by Santa
If Armstrong is stood in shadow, that means that no light is penetrating that area - fullstop.
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Nonsense. If I stand on the ladder in shadow & look beyond the LM shadow to the brightly sunlit ground, I can see it. Why? Because light from there is reflected to me. To say that no light penetrates the shadow is patently wrong.
Incidently, because I can see the brightly illuminated ground beyond the shadow of the LM, my eyes will be light-adapted and I will find it difficult to distinguish detail in the dark of the shadow below. Try walking from a brightly lit room outside into the dark and see what detail you can make out. Wait 5 minutes. Now what can you see?
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Originally Posted by Santa
So what if its bright on the horizon - how far do you think that the horizon is away from the LEM? It certainly isnt close enough to reflect light several thousands of metres to the LEM, how gullible do you really think I am?
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I have read Jay's response a couple of times and still cannot see a reference to the horizon. The light does not need to reflect from the horizon - it just needs to reflect from the illuminated areas beyond the shadow of the LM. A handful of metres.