EDG, goodness knows I'm not a fan of the ATM forum, but I have to express my curiosity about what has gotten you so fired up about this issue?

Are you seeking an end to the ATM forum? Are you finding it difficult to avoid where it is? Did Fraser stick you with the bandwidth tab? Why is this an issue for you?

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And you, to whom adversity has dealt the final blow
With smiling [faces] lyin' to ye' everywhere ye' go
Turn to, and put out all your strength of arm and heart and brain
And like the Mary Ellen Carter, rise again.