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Old 23-June-2003, 04:09 PM
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Remember fellows: chemical rockets won´t take us anywhere.
Well, I don't know. That does seem like a counsel of despair to me. After all the most important issue of all is the cost of delivering a kg of payload to Earth orbit. It has not been shown that large cost reductions here cannot be achieved using chemical rockets (perhaps air-breathing, true). And, as Heinlein noted, once you're there, you're halfway to everywhere [in the Solar System, anyway].

The real issues seem to be institutional and political. I would doubt that NASA, under its current dispensation anyway, is capable of pursuing Cheap Access to Space to fruition. Probably the OSP will be just another X-33/Venturestar fiasco. But it needn't be so.

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Be content with the electronic eyes and arms of our probes.
Which are fantastic, but it is not unreasonable to be impatient about the state of manned spaceflight, particularly given the wastage of billions on a space station that cannot perform any useful science - a fraction of which funds could probably be used to lower the current costs of space launches and improve reliability (too late, really - I know). At least we'll get a European ATV out of the programme, though - might come in handy in the future.

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Wait until there is significant tech.
You mean wait for someone to build a beanstalk?

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The Moon is all the Chinese (and the rest of us) can afford.
Fine - it's plenty to be going on with - get the infrastructure sorted and you can use lunar materials to go further. I'm all for a Moon First approach (perhaps with a few NEOs thrown in).
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