Originally Posted by Ari Jokimaki

Redshift in Arp's model is "More from Arp et al" stuff but briefly, redshift decreases with age of objects and quasars are newly created objects in Arp's model. But, if one starts to argue against these local quasar models, one should already know these basic issues about them, no? (Similarily, if I would argue that Big Bang theory doesn't work because it puts Earth in the center of the universe, or some other clearly false argument, then surely you would suggest that I should learn about Big Bang theory before arguing against it.)