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Old 13-September-2007, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Nereid View Post
1) Oblique (and sometimes not so oblique) references to concerns over mainstream astronomy or space science (or astrophysics, or cosmology) that have been raised, many times, in many threads, in several BAUT sections, before. In this particular case, it is 'gravity behaving badly'.

Sometimes the post does seem to have direct pertinence to the thread; many times its pertinence seems to be perceived only by the BAUT member who posted it.
Where it's pertinent and not promoting ATM, leave it be. A challenge to a point covered by a mainstream theory probably isn't in itself ATM.

If the challenge has an "if not this, then my idea succeeds by default, even if I don't explicitly name it", it's ATM. If it's ATM, it's adequately covered by the procedures related to rule 13 and should be restricted to its own ATM thread, open or closed, as normal.

If it's not ATM but is disruptive to the topic, it falls under rule 14 and an official direction to stay on topic is warranted. If it's sufficiently aggressive, rule 14 is there to deal with it. If it's not disruptive, or no more disruptive than an ordinary inadvertent hijack, leave it be.

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2) Rehashing of papers, or ideas, that have been discussed, in many contexts, in several threads, in several BAUT sections, before. Examples include *quasar proper motions; *(lack of) time dilation in quasars; *Pioneer 6.

What concerns me is that there's nothing new introduced, as could be seen by copying and pasting from earlier threads. It gets tiring to have to keep responding to this, over and over again, yet if someone doesn't do it, folk reading these new instances for the first time may form the impression that there's something unaddressed, some big question that is going unanswered.
This one is really already covered by the rules. Rule 6 points out that the term spam really has two meanings (over and above the trademarked meaning): unsolicited promotion (commercial or not), and repeated flooding to the point of disruption.

That it's done within ten minutes or throttled over the space of months or years really doesn't change the effect. That it's ATM or not isn't really important either. If it's not too blatant, warn on rule 6 and/or rule 14. Merge new threads to existing ones to get the message across. If it's blatant enough, sanction as normal.
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