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Originally Posted by Warren Platts
So what if some idea that was discussed earlier and was "proved" to be misguided in one debate, and then the same person brings up the same old idea, and a bunch of new people see it? What's wrong with that?
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Umm,
Warren...it's against the rules of this board.
Are you sure you have read the rules??
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Odds are that a fresh take will result, either a new, better argument for or against the old idea; saying the new discussion is a mere repetition is often a mischaracterization (cf. the new "tired light thread" in ATM).
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Your "odds" are faulty...and of course the mainstream is "famous" for mischaracterizing ATM ideas. Your argument is becoming
very subjective.
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Besides, the so-called mainstream and the ATM depend on and feed off each other.
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If unorthodox ideas are going to be constantly censored, then BAUT will become a very bland place indeed.
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Talk about "mischaracterization", unorthodox ideas are NOT censored here. But for you to say that is very "telling".
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Beyond that, take a quick glance at the thread and post counts for the various sections. The top two are Off Topic Babbling, and ATM. Together they account for millions of page views. The mainstream astronomy sections have generated a small fraction in comparison.
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Meaning "what" exactly? That this board should give a "break" to bad science because it is somehow more "popular"?? That's DOPEY.
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Is this regretable? Not if you're an advertiser; advertisers don't care if unorthodox ideas get repeated air time as long as new page views are generated as a result. Certainly, the consequences of any proposed changes to the "rules" should be weighed in this light.
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This board is being "run" by "advertisers"?? That's news to me.
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There's Jerry, deeply skeptical that mainstream cosmology is going to withstand the test of time, there's Ken, the positivist defender of science against philosophical incursions, there's me, who's interested all the philosophical implications of space science, there's Doodler, the American imperialist ( ), etc. And then there are those whose primary contribution seems to carping about whether some ideas should be discussed at all, rather than discussing the ideas themselves.
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Then why don't you and Jerry, and Ken and Doodler
pony up some cash and start your own board...and you can say ANYTHING you want to
there.
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I say again: Give Jerry a break! His posts are interesting, and they generate page-views. (And at least he's a nice guy. . . .) If you happen to disagree, then rather than trying to stifle him, try participating in any of the hundred other active threads that are going on at any given time.
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So we shouldn't criticize Jerry (or other ATMers), we should just find other threads to post to?
Hate to break this to ya, but not only is this is a science board...it is an OPEN BOARD, and as long as ATMers post ATM "stuff", then other posters will "task" them to demonstrate that those ideas have merit.
I really can't believe that you would think it reasonable that those of us who don't agree with ATM ideas should just "post elsewhere"...why don't YOU post "elsewhere"???...sheesh.