Ari said: “I wholeheartedly disagree. You don't know what Jerry's motives are (unless Jerry has told you about them). There's no reason to assume that Jerry is talking about these things for other reasons than out of interest. Even if you assume that someone has sinister (or something like that) motives, there's no reason to go public with them. Well, ok, I guess wanting to insult the person in question is a reason.”


It is simply not accurate to say that the only access we have to a person’s motives comes from that person explicitly admitting loud and clear that X is my motive. When one looks at Picasso’s Guernica, for example, it is pretty clear that the artist’s motive was to capture the horror of war after the Nasi bombing of a Spanish town during WWII. A few weeks ago I had the chance to talk to an artist who did an award-winning painting of the Matthew Shepherd tragedy; as I suspected, based on my observation of the painting, he also was trying to depict the cruelty of the crime committed against this young man and the suffering he had to endure at the hands of his murderers. So, to make a long story short, I wholeheartedly disagree, as would most reasonable people, that the only way for one to know what a writer or artist’s motives for a given piece is to have them come out and say, “Hey, everybody, this is my motive. Did you get it? Duh, don’t you see?” Such a blatant admission would be pretty anti-climactic. So, when Jerry time and again makes posts in which he brings up ATM ideas in the astronomy section of the forum, then yes, it is safe to infer that his underlying motive for doing so may, at least in part, be that he is trying to promote his own agenda. For example, the following thread, started by Jerry in the ASTRONOMY section of the forum was essentially the promotion of an ATM idea (it admits as much in the title…for his motive look no further than actual title, Ari) and it was subsequently moved to the ATM section by a moderator as it should have been. This is an answer to the question of what should be done about “Jerry posts.” Why the CMB isn't at cosmological distances (Jerry's ideas)

By the way, calling people who criticize what Jerry “Jerry haters” is an ad hominem attack itself. I have made it a point to question and criticize Jerry’s methodology and logic e.g. I think the gist of a lot of my J-related posts has been to demonstrate that in a lot of instances Jerry has set himself up for a charge of self-refutation.