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Old 18-October-2007, 11:47 PM
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---- These are hoaxes as explicitly mentioned
1a. Space Shuttle
1b. ISS


Direct observation refutes your claim.

---- These are hoaxes, as defined by the Luna 1 line:
6. Spacecraft in lunar orbit (e.g., Selene, just launched by the Japanese).
7. Spacecraft in Sun-observing orbits (e.g., SOHO, Ulysses).
8. Spacecraft orbiting Mars/Jupiter/Saturn (e.g., Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter).
9. Spacecraft on interstellar trajectories (Pioneer 10/11, Voyager 1/2).


What is your evidence that these spacecraft are hoaxes?

What alternate scenario explains the evidence (such as it is) that such spacecraft exist? And what evidence can you provide that your scenario is, in fact, the actual state of affairs and not just a fanciful hypothesis?

What makes them necessarily hoaxes? Do you claim it's technically impossible to do what these spacecraft purport to be doing? Or do you believe these missions are technically possible, but simply fabricated instead for some other reason?
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