Then weep for me also. I happen to like both FF movies. I think the on-screen "realization" of the characters (particularly the Human Torch, and the Silver Surfer) are perfect.

Then again, I'm aware that I'm biased concerning this subject as I've been waiting for these movies since 1962, when I read my first FF comic book.


Added...actually, I will admit to having a problem with the casting of Dr. Doom. I think the actor was completely wrong for the part.