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Old 12-December-2007, 02:59 PM
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Any who, the gentleman that answered my Roswell comments/questions makes a lot of sense, but I find something fishy about the entire story.
I admire your skepticism. Please apply it to the crashed spaceship story which is much less likely than a top secret balloon project, which was operating not far away from the debris site.


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The skeptics among you who need hard evidence, there is hard evidence, the question is, do you believe it? Of course there is no crashed saucer or alien body that we officially know about, but some abductees have had pieces of foreign metal removed from there body that was independently verified as metals not natural to this planet. There is the other gentleman, whose name escapes me now, who owns a piece of "something" that just fell from the sky one night and has been verified again to not be a meteor, asteroid, or anything from this planet.
And your source for this information is? I have not heard of any such debris. All debris presented to scientists have always turned out to be something ordinary.




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But I digress. I don't know how many of you get the science channel on your local cable service, and if you do I don’t know how many of you watched the special yesterday about the "lost" Apollo 11 moon tapes that were recently found and aired. During this special they interviewed a few of the "Houston" guys as well as a new interview with Buzz Aldrin. Here's the kicker if you did not watch it. Buzz openly admits that during his trip to the moon, they had a UFO follow them, and they have video of it. They showed the video on the special, but they said it was footage of a later Apollo mission, yet it was the same UFO. Then Buzz goes on to talk about his experience with cosmic rays as he tried to go to sleep. Finally Buzz, and the narrator concurs that nobody "cared" about the ufo following alongside them because they were so caught up with trying to figure out the cosmic rays. But this is exactly what really upsets me. That is proof.
Actually, Aldrin was edited in the TV show. He concluded that it was probably one of the SLA panels from S-IVB stage and said so when somebody inquired to him about his comments on that very show.

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I could understand a few reports to throw people (and Russia) off the trail of our black budget military ops, but for these reports to continue for years on end just does not make sense if the phenomena was fabricated or easily explained by "swamp gas" or "Venus".

I anxiously await your replies.
The problem is that about 75-95% (depending on what UFOlogist/source you quote) of these sightings can be explained as ordinary events like "Venus" (called the "queen of UFOs" by Ufologist Valle). With such a large quantity of misperceptions/misidentifications, can the remaining 5-25% just be simple misperceptions that were reported so badly that an identification can't be made? It is on the burden of those making the claim that UFOs are something new to science and may be ET visiting to provide proof. Like Bigfoot, Nessie, fortune telling, talking to the dead, etc. the evidence is never very convincing and always boils down to "The witness would never lie or be mistaken". History has shown that witnesses do lie and witnesses make mistakes about what they see. Therefore, the most logical explanation for most, if not all, UFO reports is they are simply misperceptions/misidentifications/hoaxes. Until good solid evidence can be gathered to show otherwise, UFOs will remain a fringe topic that most scientists will ignore.
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