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Originally Posted by Bessler007
demonstrates a wild, untamed and unpolished, and somewhat rude dismissal of what has already been said. The attempt to change the subject by forming opinions for me like(snip)
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Really? I'm not quite so sure of this... Let's take a look...
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Originally Posted by Bessler007
Indian raids are taking on a different form these days. Times do change. They assimilated the western concept of land ownership. That's clear by their actions.
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Indian raids eh? Now THEY are raiding US?! You went right back to the very thing you complained about in my last post... and justified what I asked... So I guess you aren't afraid of them scalping you- they assimilated Western Culture and will now... What? Take back what we took from them? Killed their people for?
Incidentally- It was the White Man introduced scalping- offering payment per scalp. I guess they assimilated that as well.
Did a Native American wrong you in a past life?
I'm not quite so sure that I'm failing to understand your meaning...
Three posts from you now, imply a pretty clear animosity toward Native Americans.
Now, if I'm wrong on this count- feel free to clarify your statements. Otherwise- I will assign to your words the intentions that you have implied.
I would prefer you address these- because the heat can build between our posts rather quickly if our discussion is tainted by your seeming animosity toward Indians
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Originally Posted by Bessler007
I might not have been clear so I'll restate my position. The Lakota are attempting to dismantle the legal structure of the United States using that same legal structure. They are using an entity to damage that entity. That's absurd. They are attempting to raid property. I think they will fail. Like most things the more that happens the more clear the outcome is. We'll see.
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Lastly... They are not using a legal structure to dismantle a legal structure.
Without an army to wage war openly, they are using the existing structure in their favor. What legal structure are they trying to dismantle?
If I write my congressperson, legally, along with a great many other people, and we all agree to take a series of laws to court to determine whether or not those laws are 'just'... And the Supreme Court rules they are unjust...
Did we commit an absurdity by dismantling a legal structure with a legal structure?
I ask again- would an army please you? Would that seem less absurd to you?
If you take a man to court- to demonstrate that he legally violated your agreements with him- is that absurd?
Would you prefer to take it to fists instead of court? Don't misunderstand- I don't mind fists in the least- in fact I prefer it.
It's faster than the tedious courts- and much less expensive and stressful. Usually more effective too. Nothing like a good pounding to get a man to see reason.
But the Lakota fist is not strong enough to take on the US government. So they use the Pen which is hailed as mighty than the Sword- and you call it absurd?
They have legally used the structure to demonstrate what they want, and what the world needs to see. They went about it in the manner that the modern world perceives as 'proper.' <shrug>
It was high time - and I don't know what the effect or result will be- Most likely- the US government will squash their efforts and the result will not be in favor of the Lakota...
However, the effort is warranted- in the same spirit as
all our ancestors- and it's due. I, for one, am excited simply to
SEE them doing this. And proud of my own heritage.