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Originally Posted by Michael Noonan
Could I start with just the last point number 11.
What if the observable universe could leak. Not a lot perhaps and as a picture remember the water bubbles that were blown up in the ISS (International Space Station). The universe must have one side at least in four dimension geometry and we consider the outer to be unbounded so that leaves quantum where energy has been 'lost'.
For normal purposes the bubble in our ISS is held by surface tension and is not likely to transmit much temperature either way if room and bubble are similarly matched. I agree with you entirely that without some mechanism it may be very difficult to maintain a harmonic cyclical universe. Another factor might be the ability of an edge to be a conductor or the medium either side to receive or transmit.
A well thought out post. (I am wrong about the electroweak interaction the power difference was way out ... and the quantum nuclear weak force like the nuclear strong force has no distance effect. Apparently distance applies only to the electromagnetic force. If I then suggested splitting that I would be in trouble. And thank you Bogie for all the links that put in, cheers  )
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Thank you
Michael. Number 11 was negative in the sense I presented it, saying why I didn’t see the cyclical universe avoiding entropy to contrast it with my view where entropy is defeated. I inserted it because the first 10 steps might have implied that I was going there and because the community is very astute, they might have assumed the whole thread would lead to that dead end.
You picked up on the “leak” which can be applied to many scenarios which is right. I already think that our observable universe, a finite arena of space, loses its energy over time, but it is not lost to the greater universe just like it is not actually lost to the universe in the cyclical model. But as opposed to the cyclical model in which some EM just drifts away and contributes to entropy of the cycle, in my model there is only one expansion phase per arena.
Expansion and energy density equalization are linked. Once an arena has expanded until the energy density equalizes with the low energy density surrounding it and its contents have drifted off, it is no longer an individual arena. Its contents, galaxies, black holes, dust etc. still have momentum even after equalization because they formed during the expansion before equalization occurred and momentum was imparted to the matter as it formed. After equalization of the energy density, the galaxies, black holes, etc. are mixed and merged with the similar remnants from similar arenas that have also expanded until equalized. That is where gravity takes over, out there where the energy density of space is equalized and remnants from arenas are mixing and swirling, where it causes new arenas to form and collapse.
But I'm getting way ahead, call it a preview of steps 1001 to 1010

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