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Originally Posted by Andre
Now how many times is it needed to freeze water to determine that it happens at 0C/32F? Certainly more than once, as long as we don't accept it as a physical law that under the same atmospheric conditions it will always freeze at the same temperature.
What Olavi does, is trying to establish the feedback behavior of the atmosphere in general, not to measure as many trends as possible. The IPCC stance requires a positive feedback to be able to boost the assumed 1.2 degrees sensitivity to CO2 doubling to the 2.5 -4.5 degrees or something like that, required to justify the scaremongering.
Positive feedback means that something is pushing the temp out of equilibrium (persistency) while negative feedback would resist leaving that equilibrium, so the random one dimensional walk would have to show up with persistency to proof that positive feedback or resistancy to refute it.
In his first two papers he investigated the satellite temperature series
http://www.aai.ee/~olavi/2001JD002024u.pdf
http://www.aai.ee/~olavi/cejpokfin.pdf
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I took the time to read Olavi Karner’s papers on the negative feedback in the earths climate system. They are interesting, nothing really new, but I don’t see any major flaws except what Swift pointed out (only one land mass used). All and all I would expect to see a strong solar cycle to temperature correlation, and that is what he is showing.
Now that I agree with Karner’s papers does this mean Casey must be legit? Does this mean it makes perfect sense for one man to take on the name of The Space and Science Research Center and use a mail stop in Orlando FL as the location?
The message is OK so all messengers must be OK too? That is the logic you are suggesting.
This thread was about Casey and the Space and Science Research Center. Then you entered the scene accusing me, MAPNUT and Ken G of groupthink and all you want to do now is change the subject or focus of the thread.
You remind me of the Southwest Airlines commercials “Want to Get Away?”.
I think you owe MAPNUT, Ken G and me an apology, it is you who's using groupthink or “No Think” logic.
Jim