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I see no challenge propossal on your post in page 158.
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Keep reading the thread… I said beginning on page 158.
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Did you obtain the pictures before of after the ATS moon thread started ? (13/09/2006)
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As I said in my post, after.
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You are saying that Lear or his supporters never just asked Nasa for the pics?
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I don’t know if they did or didn’t but I did and I offered the owners of ATS an exclusive on it in exchange for hosting it on ATS for me (as opposed to on my personal web site) in order to protect my privacy. I figured they hosted John Lear’s copy of the image so why not mine? This offer was refused and when I announced on ATS that I had a better copy and it was refused I was banned in this post here by the owner of ATS Mark Allin (aka “Springer”)…
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/single/2552629.html
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The reason we aren't interested in hosting these NASA images is because they are easily found on NASAs website.
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Oh really, where?
This is all documented by the way in much more detail including the relevant emails on several (rather unsavory) threads on Reality Uncovered where I am currently a moderator if you’re interested.
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You were banned and all your 450 pots and threads were deleted, then why i am reading all your posts perfectly? Or you are saying that the posts and threads of your first banning were deleted?
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Correct. My 450 posts (and my threads
along with the other members posts in them including one particularly lengthy one containing potential new evidence unfavorable to the Roswell crash proponents) were deleted just before the public banning incident above occurred… allegedly my posts were deleted by accident when the founder of ATS, Simon Grey, was “fixing” my account after I had emailed him because I had been “mysteriously” (silently) locked out.
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I see banned members´posts and threads from long before your banning and they are present, not deleted.
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I guess that’s makes me special.

Since you are member of ATS you can log in and check my post count… it’s over 450 now but can you find 450 posts?
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Why don´t you provide this info in an ATS thread or similar?
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As you can see above beginning on page 158 of the
"John Lear's Moon Pictures on ATS" thread, my original account was eventually restored late last year and I did get a chance to present my evidence (although with the loss of my privacy and anonymity) but it was for the most part ignored by Lear’s supporters… apparently it doesn’t qualify as hoax in their mind and the thread continues…
By the way, for a laugh, here’s the post I got banned for just recently in the John Lear thread
"Discovery Launches at 11:38 EDT. Expects to Reach and Dock With ISS in 44 Hours!"…
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/...g15#pid3699950
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You can create a new account and start a new thread, accussing the ATS staff of this "conspiracy to make you silent" that you are stating, why don´t you do that?
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That was attempted by myself (using the alias “Saviour Of The Real”) and a number of other ATS members but the thread quickly degenerated… posts were deleted and the thread locked so we gave up.
Anyway, thanks for your interest but I’m afraid this discussion is kind of off-topic for BAUT… I really just wanted to point out in support of Jay's post that John Lear’s claim that he somehow received an “untouched” image of the Moon was bunk and the management of ATS is more interested in making money than the truth… I think their motto of “Deny Ignorance” should be changed to “Embrace, Exploit, and Profit From Ignorance”.
