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Originally Posted by Bogie
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Dude... Bogie.
Take a moment to breath before you pass out on the floor man.
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Thanks Neverfly … Ooooooooooommmmmmm, oooooooooooommmmmmmmmmm. There, I feel much better and I’m sitting up now which is an improvement to being sprawled out on the floor.
You tried to get me to talk ‘energy field’ on one of the Q&A threads and I said it was more ATM. I couldn’t do it without saying what there is about the observable universe that makes me think there has to be energy density of space that consists of the same ‘energy’ that makes up matter.
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Of course there is the matter of updating how matter forms from the expanding high energy density environment. And how gravity works. But then I still have three weeks and this an ATM thread … maybe I will add new content to those ideas and climb those fences again (for my own satisfaction and for the CD-R  ).
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Well said both of you. I read an analogy one time that no matter how thin and how long it took an even spread of any quantity would form an event horizon if large enough. The example used water and said if a galaxy was filled with water it would collapse into the most enormous black hole. And yes this is not the forum to talk about fields ... maybe not mainstream or ATM.
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I am going to speculate that the entity was at is smallest possible volume at the instant that expansion began and that the change in volume that preceded the expansion was contraction. This speculation says that the entity contracted or collapsed before expansion began.
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Now thinking on original conditions a space of any dimension ... one or above that held a uniformity of energy or matter would need to resonate (well at least the idea resonates with me). Space is not empty, zero point energy confirms that. So a pre condition with an almost empty, vast space would need to collapse to form the initial or starting conditions for the big bang ... you have got my vote even if it is not mainstream.
If the collapse caused an event horizon that encapsulated all of the energy of our universe it could be based on the time relative to the near zero of the pre universe space and seem almost instantaneous ... especially if it broke away and was like a universe segment or sheet or higher.
Now that would indicate a size start if from another dimension and sort of really makes a mess of singularity t=0 see diagram ... when did time really start?
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Bogie you have definitely put a lot of thought, a lot of thought indeed into this idea. I want to read this thread a few more times and yes I think it is off to a great start, cheers
