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Old 01-February-2008, 12:42 PM
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So, some observations are geocentric. We've never denied that, I've often used ECEF (earth centered earth fixed) coordinates in working with satellites. But, you said "all observations": "There I noted that all observation using the sky map of astronomy is geocentric, simply by its locating of objects by coordinates and constellations" That's really not true, for most observations.And that reminds me of the Dew Drop Inn, and its cheeseburger in paradise.
Looking at stars, geocentric and heliocentric outlooks are much the same. As I understand it when we measure the stars from earth we are also effectively measuring from the sun, as stellar distances are too large for parallax. Seeing our planet as a focal measuring point in the universe is therefore much the same as seeing our sun as a focal point. In other words, geocentrism and heliocentrism are the same for observation of the universe, as the sun is so close to the earth by cosmic scales. Of course the sun is in no more a privileged position than the earth when it comes to the big bang etc.

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By this contorted logic, then we must conclude that rap recordings, telemarketers, and Microsoft Vista are products of the Earth. So profound, and yet so meaningless. So Zen! To the tune of "Raindrops Keep Falling on My Head":
From an evolutionary perspective, science is, in a sense, how the earth thinks. Thought is a physical product of cumulative human adaptation to terrestrial systems, making thought, like all life, a complex product of the earth. In its highest form, thought seeks to truly reflect reality. Reflecting reality through scientific thought involves representing reality, including the earth, by concepts as thought. This representation function is a physical biological product of human ecology, as are reason, will and spirit. Further, since the earth is part of the solar system, and largely a caused product of the sun, science may be seen as how the sun thinks. Ideas are to the sun as leaves are to a tree. Thought is a physical product of the solar system at its most complex point – the earth. The measuring function of thought is a real physical structure in the universe, and, to the extent it is centred on our planet, all thought is in some sense geocentric.