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Old 25-February-2008, 06:47 PM
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You know what, maybe it was just flares. Honest to god, that makes a certain, small amount of sense to me. Even in the video I can see how the lights might be flares. And the fact that someone has even given an explanation means that explanation has to be considered seriously. Please don't assume I blow off the flares explanation with contempt like so many others.

But, being just as honest with myself, I have to say that flares falls quite short given what I've read. If it is flares, then as a scientist, I need to understand how flares can travel across an entire state, in formation, over several hours, or else I need to know how I've been misinformed about the sighting.

But I doubt you can do either of those things anyway.
That is because a lot of people are not that well informed about the event. I continue to post my evaluation of what happened that night. The videos, except for one, showed the flares dropped around 10PM. Many UFOlogists still contend they were not flares, which is just plain stupid IMHO since there is so much evidence they were flares that it isn't funny. The 8PM event, the one everyone else saw flying across the state, was nothing more than a formation of lights seen by observers. Some saw lights and others saw a dark triangle behind the lights. The only video of this event shows clearly that the lights were shifting positions in flight and therefore could not be attached to a single large object. What was missing was some good eyewitnesses to the event who had the equipment to evaluate what happened. It just so happens there was a witness that was ignored by the media and MUFON (as well as all those websites about the phoenix lights). His name was Mitch Stanley, an amateur astronomer with a 10" dobsonian reflector. He was observing the sky that night and saw the formation. His scope revealed them as aircraft flying in formation with lights. Despite him going to a MUFON meeting and explaining his observation, he was ignored (and in some cases called a debunker) and the more spectacular stories published.
You can read all about the Phoenix event and the principles involved at my website on the matter. Enjoy:

http://members.aol.com/TPrinty/AZUFO.html

Isn't it funny how critical information is never given out by all these UFO groups that might shed light on the source of the UFO? As I state on my web page, it seems highly likely the source of the 8-8:30PM event was a formation of aircraft with lights. Uncritical witnesses, who were widely interviewed as seeing something extraordinary, set the tone for how the event was perceived and reported.
I regret that many skeptics confuse the flare event and the flyover 2 hours earlier but that was because the second event received the most publicity and had video evidence to back it up. Some are unaware there were two events that night. Anyway, you can read my evaluation on the webpage if you wish. To me, the event is essentially solved but, because poor investigative procedures by UFO groups, the actual aircraft were never identified and no radar evidence was gathered before the tapes had been erased.
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