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Originally Posted by eburacum45
I trust you are aware that the Mexican Airforce sighting has been explained very well, and and the Gulf Breeze sightings are generally accepted to have been a hoax; those sightings and the Phoenix Lights can not really be considered compelling cases. We also have a good thread on Rendlesham on this site, which seems to indicate that some of the accounts of that incident are unreliable, while other more contemporary accounts may point in the direction of a number of mundane explanations.
So at least three and perhaps four of the 'best case' incidents are less than ideal evidence for anything out of the ordinary.
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Actually, you can find some rebuttals to a lot of these if you look closely on the internet or elsewhere. Some of these are non-starters to begin with. The Mantell case has long been considered by many UFOlogists as a skyhook balloon. Lately, others have resurrected it again as some form of holy treasure that should not be debunked. Jimmy Carter's sighting was Venus but because he was a president, UFOlogists cling to all sorts of minutae in his report to say it was not venus even though Carter filed his report to MUFON four years after the event and did not even get the date right for the event (which can be traced back to the lions club meeting he attended). I have quite a few links for those cases (some are on my web page) for those interested in "the other side of the coin".
Roswell (ad infinitum)
Belgium AF intercept
Belgium UFOs
Gulf Breeze
Kecksburg
Trindade Island
Kenneth Arnold (two different links)
Jimmy Carter
Trent photographs
Two classic UFO cases of 1948 (Mantell, Chiles-Whitted)
Gorman and Mantell
RendleSHAM
STS-48
Mexico City solar eclipse
I could add a couple of more but it would be overkill. Some of these cases were simply ignored when they happened only to become big UFO stories decades later (Roswell and Kecksburg are two that come to mind), where the details are no longer accurate. Others rely on the testimony of one or two individuals as to the UFO being seen. Still others have inconsistent reports told by different eyewitnesses. If this is the evidence that UFOs are worth spending precious scientific resourses (time and funds), then it is sadly lacking. No scientist in their right mind would waste effort on something of this nature.