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Old 06-March-2008, 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by orionjim View Post
I am talking strictly about angular momentum and the conservation of it, not gravity. My analogy of the tides on the moon was pretty bad, since the tides are caused by gravity. I was trying to make a point there may be a possible cause.
Conservation of angular momentum, as I understand it, tells us nothing one way or the other about possible stresses on the Sun as it orbits the barycenter. Please enlighten us as to why you believe otherwise.
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If JimP does take the time to put Saturn into his charts and the R^2 number does go up then I will explain the mechanism I am thinking about. I personally think the R^2 will go up! If the R^2 number doesn’t go up then posting my idea would be a total waste of time.

My question to you (Hornblower) is if the R^2 does go up would it get your interest up?
Don't ask me, ask a statistician. I don't know diddlysquat about these statistical criteria.
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If the R^2 number doesn't go up I'll be standing with you.

Jim
If qualified statisticians conclude that a statistical correlation between sunspot counts and Jupiter's perihelion passages is too good to be a mere coincidence, then of course I would be interested in trying to identify a possible cause.

As I argued before, the period analyzed in the OP is too short to rule out a periodic solar max variation whose period is not exactly that of the Jupiter pattern, but is close enough to give a false positive for two or three cycles. If it holds up over 10 or 20 such cycles I would say, "Go for it." My question: Is there forensic evidence of the strength individual solar maximums and minimums in prior centuries that can be dated exactly?