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We can pretty much close up the thread and go home.
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Ye ok let me have my two penneth first
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To claim that all creationist have are hypotheses and no facts or theories assumes that you know all creationists and know all data that creationist talk about.
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I thought I'd have a look (fully open minded) and see what this creationist science is actually saying.
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The view that the universe and Earth are actually young but merely appear old is very popular. It means that the Genesis account as read in a straightforward manner is scientifically accurate, and does not place any theological problems on whatever age scientists want to put on the universe or Earth.
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You only need to read one example to conclude that this creationist science is nothing more than a manipulation of facts to suite a there own ideas. Simply an attempt to control the work that greater minds have done in understanding nature to suite there own personal belief and agenda. They manipulate fact as proof and they manipulate gaps in-between the facts as proof.They say - 'There is no reason not to believe that God created the Universe' - and that's true, but only as true as saying there's no reason to believe that 'God' did. So all it boils down to, nothing more and nothing less, is a faith- No facts, none, zero, without basis, nought, no-no facto, zilch... I don't have a problem with the idea that maybe there is something more than we see (maybe there is, maybe there isn't, who knows)... Creationists trying to twist facts and ancient stories into one will do more harm to there own cause than anything else, (as in the quote above).
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Only later in life, after you have developed the skill of reaching for apples (and many, many other skills), can you then reach for an apple on faith.
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You mean as we get closer to the death bed.. Your probably right, maybe we all will need faith at some stage.....
I dunno
