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Originally Posted by Gillianren
Number three, you're missing my point. Yeah. Discussion here is limited to 30 days, and thank Gods for that. However, science as a whole eventually accepted his ideas, and within his own lifetime. So much for "science never accepts new ideas." If it doesn't accept yours, the more likely options are that you haven't provided enough evidence, you haven't done enough work, or you're wrong.
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It is a good point, but I never said science does not accept new ideas - I pointed out progress in energetics as an example.
What I am saying is that astro-scientist have used unusual and unscientific reasoning to perpetuate bad scientific arguments; while at the same time expecting those with alternative solutions to find exact solutions, in Sagan's words: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. There is NO evidence of the imaginary 'tholins' on the surface of Titan, and Sagan's attempt to bale out Newton must be rejected as nullified.
Extraordinary evidence does exist that Newtonian physics do not correctly predict what we observe: Galactic rotations, cluster rotations, gravitational accelerations, even the calibration of the GPS system produced results that differ from Newton's predictions. It is impossible to resolve all of these oddball observations without changes that also predict higher percentages of heavy atoms in the outer solar systems, because that is what we are observing all of the time.