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Old 11-March-2008, 12:31 PM
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Aye, and that's the rub - you can generate static charges in two identical substrates - for example, rubbing two toy balloons together - my daughter taught me that one, to at first my disbelief. Why does one piece of rubber have more or less affinity than an identical mate?
Because the charging of insulating surfaces is not just a matter of affinity, especially if you are rubbing them together. What happens is much more complicated and difficult to investigate.

But it seems to me that you are simply slipping into the bog-standard ATM fallacy: "Mainstream cannot explain everything, therefore I am right!"


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Try rubbing two balloons together, them stick them on the wall, without rubbing them any further. Then try sticking them on the wall without rubbing them together at all . I am a physcist,...
I beg to differ.


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...I can't explain why they stick after being rubbed together, without some rather feeble mumbling about statistical variations and quantum effects.



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Explain how thunderstorms emit gamma rays. Explain static friction. I don't think that the standard explanations for triboelectric effects are correct - they don't answer enough questions.
You have not displayed much knowledge about the "standard" explanations.

This should be an interesting review, but unfortunately I cannot access the fulltext.
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