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Old 07-August-2003, 04:10 PM
Arramon Arramon is offline
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........hmmmm.....
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.....hold on....
.....let me drink some coffee first... ... ....
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..ok...
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.. so.... why is it that a belief in a certain structure of religion would have anything to do with why and how our universe moves or expands or whatnot? The age of the earth is most definitely older than 6 thousand years, and we have records to show this... WE HAVE RECORDS TO SHOW THIS... we have recor---- oh... i said that already... =)
**sip coffee**
anywayz...

This CMB, a big cosmic microwave background of sorts... it has an appearance of being smooth from our perspective... but, from another perspective, as in being infront of the so-called expanding wave of the CMB, the form of the CMB may be totally different from what WE see...
The aforementioned bits and pieces of debris flying aorund, that would be on the OTHER side of the CMB that we are seeing... not on this side...
the unevenness that we may see throughout our universe is more than likely caused by the formations of gravitational singularities that had formed either by the CMB expanding or by amounts of Dark Matter/Energy being present before the CMB commenced its journey...

Our universe as a whole could have been a certain charge at first, be it negative or positive... and an opposite charge could have been introduced that caused the reaction prior to the BB expansion.... or there could have been a plentiful amount of negative and positive amounts of matter/energy everywhere but with no force to conduct their charges together to cause the BB, so a certain element could have been used to help that conductive charging of particles... like a 9V battery.... stick your tongue on one tip, either negative or positive, one at a time, and you get nothing.... but stick your tongue on both charges at once... OI!!

We do have very old particles that are still around, that were around even before the birth of our world, just floating in space... pockets here and there, empty voids of matter with nothing to do but be pushed and pulled... any mixture of certain particles that might create such a CMB could have been used to excite the BB into reality... .. .

. .. ...and about there being a Creator to all of this... well, of course there is!! You think we are here just because? If we are learning what it means to have a mind and a will and an intensely, unending excitement towards finding our origin of birth, than we are most definitely related to something that has given us these wants and needs of understanding and overcoming the obstacles put before us to achieve what it was that our ancestors couldn't... If you recall, the Bible was written just recently compared to the actual longevity of our world... only 2 thousand years prior... within a time when Man could finally use words and the reach of the Holy church to establish a rule of how Man should be....

This was Man's decision to allow the voice of Religion to gain a foothold on the soul's of Man... .. . Man wrote the chapters in the Bible as we see them... and the Church organized it as it saw fit to do... .. even leaving out chapters that have been written by others, but didn't really reflect with what the Church had in mind... ..

Religion aside... we are here, and we need to be there... so how do we get there with all the different feelings rolling around inside of us?

A certain platform must be established in order for all voices (intelligent or not) to be heard that may have an interested opinion in the matter of why and how... if i die, will i be cast into fire? i most definitely DO NOT think so.... as my parents and church has seen to drive into me since i was young.... but, being older now, 28 as of January, i have finally begun to realize that 1) there is no reason to condemn someone to a life of gnashing teeth and eternal torment if they've done nothing wrong (being that that person is actually a good person).. and 2) we didn't find ourselves to be the center of the universe.... far from it.... literally... as had a certain Text has proclaimed... something does not match up with the words that are written by Man.... the Words that are written by the Creator or NOT the words written by Man.... Man may have tried to interpret a meaning of something shown through their consciousness, as how the Bible seems to be done... but, Man could never fully understand what it is that has created us enough to understand how it was that we were formed.... give these visions of Creation to someone of today's understandings..... i believe that the Bible may look alittle bit different than what we read today....
The Words of the Creator are above us, in the night sky.. in the far reaches of the cosmos.... in the stars... the formation of galaxies... the turning of planets around suns.... the explosions of supernovae cascading their particles all over the regions in which they inhabited... the unknown sources of negative and positive energies that we still have yet to discover their full meaning...
Yin and Yang... formlessness... an open mind... a transcendence from a form of solid matter to formless energy, that inturn can create its own matter.... and so on... .. .

Be good to eachother... and don't take things so serious that you can't see flaws when they are present, on both sides of the argument... give way when another view may lead to progress... keep morality within reach, but personal beliefs at arms length, yet close to your heart (if it gets you up in the morning, let it)... view from the third perspective, one outside of right and wrong, but one not so distant that you couldn't see the finest details of those lines being drawn....

No one ever mentions the fact that if God created light, then would Satan be the Darkness that we see.... its an argument better left for a time when we can more fully understand ourselves and our universe first... everything is just.... speculation..... and nothing to get worked up over, especially since we have such a looooooooooong way to go...

**sips coffe again**

....ok!! =)

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