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Kind of ironic how the title of a recent now closed thread is the 'Demise of ATM discussion' when as of this writing 147 folks are posting or at least viewing the ATM section, and the number of people viewing and/or posting in the ATM section is consistently on par with or greater than the other sections in this forum. Thus, "demise" is surely the wrong word to describe the current state of affairs. "Disorganized" or "fragmented" are probably better descriptors here. Essentially, the current cosmological model relies on the assumption that Einstein's theory of GR (General Relativity) is a correct description of gravitation in our Universe. Most ATM cosmologies, including Jerry's, attack this central notion.
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I must agree with you completely. The ATM section has is lighting up, the conversation is vigorous and spirited. Jerry was wrong again.
[/quote]And, unlike ATM theorists such as Jerry, who spend most their time criticizing and bashing, Spergel actually proposes a way to test this new idea. [/quote]
Well, I think the 'truth is out there' meaning that a proper interpretation of much of the data in-hand would go a long way towards finding it; and I still have to insist that I am making both numerical and general predictions, not just questioning modern interpretations of modern data. Oh, and reparameterizing GR (again) will not fix the problems.
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...Internet forums and online dating, although becoming more acceptable, are still not taken seriously and are looked down upon by many in our society—somewhat analogous to the "free trade" protestor with dreadlocks and Che T-shirt being made fun of by a smug CNN reporter. So, the overhaul will require rigorous deductive mathematical reasoning, detailed technical proposals for new hitherto unknown experiments, and ideas on how existing or planned experiments might be able to test these ideas, and so on.
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The most pleasing progress is that many like you realize that some kind of overhaul is necessary. To what extent the internet forums such as this have added to a growing consensus that change is needed is a good question. It is my personal opinion that the BA/UT web pages will be invaluable in tracing the roots of future mainstream wisdom.