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Old 28-March-2008, 07:37 AM
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There would be merit in looking at history against the 179 year barycentre phases as that period is also part of the same natural harmonic cycle. My underlying aim here is to unpack how precession provides a framework for terrestrial cosmology, using historical correlations as a signpost.
This is also similar to the argument that Dutch used.

Because we find something that correlates on a supplied date means nothing if it will also correlate on many other dates.

I would agree that a correlation between the Barycenter cycle and Earths Precession would be interesting to examine further. I've actually found a similar statement made other places as well.

It's ties to to the history of Earth are dubious at best, however.

Apart from the Rome/US link, are there any other nations that existed at different times that share a common history? If the US is the new Rome, then who is or was the new Egypt? Or Babylon? Spain and Portugal probably had more of impact on the Western expansion than the rest of Europe, so where do they fall in all of this?

If it "works" for Rome and the US, then why does it not work for any other nation/empire?

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The timing of parallels may vary, but I still maintain that the overall path of development of Rome and the US is surprisingly similar, giving grounds to expect that US and world history will follow a similar path to that of the Roman Empire over the next few centuries at equivalent points 2147 years ago.
Wait... What?

"The timing of parallels may vary"? How can than that make them parallels? Even if the general course of history between the two match up in a broad sense, the point of this, as I understand it, is that there are exact correlations at exact intervals.

What about Rome being founded 98 years (adjusted) before there were any territorial claims made in North America?

What about the fact that it was still over 200 more years before there was a permanent English Settlement?

Rome had existed as Rome for over 200 years before what would be the US would be settled by anyone, and 450+ before there was the first real progress made toward founding an independent country, let alone an empire by any use of the word.

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I had another look at the timeline and think you are being rather harsh as the correlations are much better than random chance. I concede I still need to work out how to test this statistically, but there are examples such as
1812AD = 336BC. Rome’s Latin Wars parallel the war of 1812.
1865AD = 283BC. US Civil War parallels Etruscan War

The Etruscan wars from 500-283BC (= 1648-1865AD) also have a strong parallel with the relations between the US and Native Americans. As this is not seen as a war in modern terms, with history written by the victors, you may have overlooked it.
I did, yes. I think the reason was that I was looking for something along the lines of a 4 year war, not a 17 year one. The timeline entry for 283 BC made it sound like it was just another significant battle rather than the end of a long standing war. Again, that "exact parallels" thing probably threw me off.
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