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Old 28-March-2008, 05:48 PM
Joe Durnavich Joe Durnavich is offline
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Originally Posted by grant hutchison View Post
If "self" and "pain" are separate entities within "body", we have a person who feels no pain.
Excellent point.

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If "pain" is a subset of "self" within "body", we have a person who feels pain.
The incorporation of "pain" into "self" is to some extent under the control of "self", and to some extent under the control of "pain": we may "look for the pain", or pain may intrude.
The only part I struggle with in this view is having pain be any specific thing in the body, even as a subset of it. What might a headache be in that scenario? These neurons, those nerve fibers, these red blood cells, those muscle contractions, these neurotransmitters, etc.? Even though all that may all come into play when I have a headache, I just can't see calling all that the headache that is a subset of me. I don't think it could be something I could "look for" either since I believe I lack all the sense mechanisms required to detect all those things at that level of detail.
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