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Old 31-March-2008, 12:53 AM
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Robert. You have not, now or ever, shown a logical reason that these cycles should fit human behaviour. You have not, now or ever, shown evidence that they do.

If you want to show that there is any evidence for your idea that this cycle actually influences human history, you must show more than two "parallel" civilizations. Finding what you believe to be more and more similiarities between the US and Rome is not, despite what you may believe, what you need to do in order to make your claim seem more reasonable. You have to show that the US and Rome are not the only parallel civilizations. You have to show that it's more than mere coincidence.

I'm letting you off the hook entirely with regards to why the cycles of anything but Sun and Moon should have influence on human civilization. It's not my field of expertise. But the fact remains that, well, you hadn't heard of the Olmec. You didn't realize that the Egyptians have documentation going farther back than the Romans. You think India and China might have records enough for your little project, but you've never looked into it enough to work out whether they do. You are, in fact, assuming that they will, because your cycle is real, so they must. Guess what? That's a logical fallacy!

So. Leave out the astronomical stuff. I've never disputed that the thing about the Great Year is true. I'll leave that to those who know the relevant science. I have a few more direct questions, however.

How many data points must you map before you can call something a parallel?

How many data points must you map before you can call a hypothesis properly explored?

Is having a lot of possible data points regarding one parallel better or worse than having multiple parallels?

If you don't have the latter, how do you know that your system really works?

Why do you expect me to believe that your system works if you can't show me how it fits into anything other than Rome and the US? Am I just supposed to believe that you're right because, look, it mostly lines up for Rome and the US? Do you really think I'm being unreasonable when I ask you to look into other civilizations to test your hypothesis?

And, as I asked before--twice--what number of years do you consider to be "close enough" for a cycle?
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