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Old 31-March-2008, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by sillybear7 View Post
We are all traveling well in excess of c relative to something, this is true. There are parts of the universe that are separated by such a large amount that the expansion is pushing them apart faster than the speed of light.

The 'universal speed limit' of C only applies locally, which you can think of as being similar to your car measuring speed relative to the road or a plane measuring speed relative to the air it passes through. You measure your speed with a light clock and hence relative to the space you are traveling through.

Exactly! - where supposedly 3-percent of the universe we can see due to the galaxies traveling less than speed of light.

where does the 3-percent come from????????????? - hw de we know (or thing) that the rest of the 97-percent of the universe is beyond that "C" event horizon? - since we cannot observe galaxies that are receeding at rates greater than light speed.

I assume there could be an empirical "proof" of the assirtion that there is a universe beyond what we can observe (not that 3-percent - which I would welcome an answer to how you get that "assumption" - vs 30 percent or 0.00000003 percent of whatwe see is what is there) would be validated if one of there galaxies we now see decides to "dissapear" (due to the increasing expansion of the universe where the distant galaxy exceeds the speed of light (note the most distant galaxies now are in the ifrared.......................I assume we will find one in a lower radio spectrum - maybe radio.....on the "edge" (not of the universe but of our observable universe))..................and in a few million or billion years that radio source will eventually "end" WRT to us.

I assume one who lives on that galaxy WAY over at that edge of that 97-percent we cannot see.........would see a sky filled with only stars and galaxies over one half of the sky (and the flipped version of one at the other edge of the universe).

...............where we sit in the universe is not difinable from oversation.

in the center? - near one edge or near the other??????????????

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my question is WHERE DOES THE ASSUMED "WHAT WE SEE IS 3-PERCENT OF THE UNIVERSE".......................................ho w do make such a claim when the other 97-percent is theortically unobservable???????????
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