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Old 02-April-2008, 12:48 AM
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The Big Bang is the currently accepted theory for the beginning of the observable universe. It is neither true nor false; it doesn't break the known laws because almost by definition, the observables are tailored about to be consistent with both this theory and laws as they are currently understood: If the BB breaks the laws, then either the law has to change or theory has to be modified or abandoned.
Hogwash. Provide some evidence that the observables are "tailored" to be consistent. Sounds to me like you're accusing physicists and astronomers of fraud.

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Many of us do not think that the BB is a creditable explanation, or even a good working theory. Even so, finding workable solutions requires analysis of the many observables. One of the firm observables is that the earth is very old, and the universe much older - perhaps too old for the current version of the BB. It is not going to get any younger.
What those of your ilk think is so far off as to be unimportant to practicing scientists. Nothing you have provided on this board comes within a country mile of being as descriptive, as predictive, and as complete a theory as the complex of theories that together form current BBC. Yes there are phenomena unexplained (your beloved Pioneer anomaly) but the vast bulk of observables are well described. You complain about the anomaly that's almost lost in the weeds but have not come close to providing an alternative that describes the simplest of well-established phenomena. At the risk of getting Biblical, Get that log out of your eye before you look for splinters in ours. You have not shown any viable option and simply complain in typical self-rightous ATM paranoia style.


P.S. Ketterle still has his Nobel Prize.
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