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Old 10-April-2008, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by pie33 View Post
How could a universe be without advanced civilizations living on their home planets?

What if the drake equation is a trick question, in which we are the only pre-type I civilization in the universe. The drake equation is not false, because we are here on earth, and the answer will always be 1. However, there is no evidence for advanced civilizations elsewhere in the universe.

With the great silence from 35 years of seti, no evidence of dyson spheres on Hubble’s telescope and Fermi's paradoxical question of "where are they," events, and time may be foretelling us something of our absolute loneliness in the universe.

With no evidence of probes in orbit or in our prehistoric past. - It appears that we have not been visited by advanced civilizations because we are freaks of nature, and there is no such thing as advanced civilizations in the universe, because we are it.
Bear in mind too, we are only able to 'see' the very local.
Even Hubble can only see so far... and the further out it looks, the longer that light has been traveling to us. Like looking bac in time.

Our own E.M. radiation barely makes it out past the outer fringe of the solar system. Even if someone is out there with a SETI of their own- they are not likely to pick up our E.M. any time soon. It would be extremely weak and degraded to the point of non existence before it reached the nearest star.

We can discover extra-solar planets, but only by measuring gravitational effects. Not direct observation. Most of the ones we have found are bigger than Jupiter.

So, realistically, at our current technology, the odds of us seeing anyone or being seen are actually very slim.
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