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Evolution demonstrates a lack of necessity for an intelligent designer.
I.D. simply injects an intelligent Designer into the mix as a superfluous figure for fulfilling the human desire for a superior entity or being
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This where I disagree, and why I sense some arrogance and animosity towards ID. The ability for science support evolution does not disprove ID, nor does the failuire of science to support evolution prove ID.
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Now that I think about it, I think certain parts of evolution theory could be considered ideology......
Name one. Go ahead... I'll wait.
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Missing links, Lucy was proven false, but yey science believes its still out there.....
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I don't see "science" in that list.
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I never try to represent it as being so
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defined by observation and theory.
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so they are still not understood?
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All ideas and theories aren't equal though, some have solid evidence, can be falsified and have predictive power.
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meterology can 'predict' weather, but we all know how accurate the weather forcast is
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my faith is in something unobservable, untestable, and unfalseifiable
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I realize ID/ideology/theology/religion is unscientific, and that is the very reason science as a problem with any part of it..... although it does not disprove it.
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many intelligent people, people who undertand the reality of evolution, who do believe in (at least the possibility of) a intelligent designer / creator /whatever.
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I have a hard time finding any, or atleast any that will discuss both science and ID in the same room....
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For the last couple of centuries we (science) have been knocking off the gods one by one. The sun god. the god of war, and others have been laid to rest as we have progressed with our understanding of the universe. Could it be that we are on the cusp of debunking all religion
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I think that is the life purpose for some scientist, it is their desire to disprove religion. Maybe it is this very reason their is so much animosity towards certain religions that wil not cave to darwin evolution.
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Expelled is based on lies
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Haven't seen it, or researched it much. I do agree, you lose credibility when your found leaving out certain facts and twisting the truth, this goes for sciense also.... It's scary to learn how much the media filters what we actually read and hear. BBC changed it's entire story due to an activists.
I've been directed towards talk origins several times. Maybe some may be interested in reading up on some thoughts from the ID side as well. I don't know the credibility of site as I just found it recently, but I think the pic accurately depicts the argument....
http://www.answersingenesis.org
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By the way Lonest@r, I just wanted to compliment you on the measured, well spoken way you are presenting your case. We obviously disagree, but I repect the way you are carrying yourself in the debate.
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Thanks, I don't expect for everyone to to agree, atleast you guys are allowing me to share ideas and have the ability to agree to disagree without becoming hostile.....