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Old 22-April-2008, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert Tulip View Post
Thanks Ray, in JimP’s chart of sunspots against barycentre, you can clearly see the minima alignment to the 178.9 year cycle. I take your point that this is not proof of a physical connection, given that the average sunspot period here (178.35 years) is half a year less than the SSB cycle, producing a very small drift forward of sunspots against each SSB cycle. Comparing the periods 1734-1755 = 1913-1933 you can see the SSB and sunspot minima are both directly aligned to the Jupiter-Saturn cycle. I think this is worth further study. The data for these patterns are here.
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Sunspot Cycles and the Solar System Barycentre
   Minima              Maxima
year    year    period    year    year    period
                    
1619    1798.3    179.3    1626    1805.2    179.2
1634    1810.6    176.6    1639.5    1816.4    176.9
1645    1823.3    178.3    1649    1829.9    180.9
1655    1833.9    178.9    1660    1837.2    177.2
1666    1843.5    177.5    1675    1848.1    173.1
1679.5    1856    176.5    1685    1860.1    175.1
1689    1867.2    178.2    1693    1870.6    177.6
1698    1878.9    180.9    1705.5    1883.9    178.4
1712    1889.6    177.6    1718.2    1894.1    175.9
1723.5    1901.7    178.2    1727.5    1907    179.5
1734    1913.6    179.6    1738.7    1917.6    178.9
1745    1923.6    178.6    1750.3    1928.4    178.1
1755.2    1933.8    178.6    1761.5    1937.4    175.9
1766.5    1944.2    177.7    1769.7    1947.5    177.8
1775.5    1954.3    178.8    1778.4    1957.9    179.5
    Average    178.3533            177.6
Well I don't know about these dates for minima in the first column. Here is the wikipedia graph of sunspots over the period and you can see that you need a good imagination to fit them.


Whatever, you are producing only 15 cycles in 178 years. That is an average of 11.86 years which is Jupiter's period around the Sun. It certainly is the correct measure of the dominant period in the COM motion. However it is not the correct period for the sunspot cycle. The average period is much nearer to 178 / 16 = 11.1 years.

It should be added that the sunspot cycle does follow Jupiter's period (11.86 years) for a while and then races off and follows J-S conjunctions for a while (9.93 years) and then back again, averaging out at 11.08 years over the last 2500 years according to Schove's data.