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Originally Posted by 3rdvogon
Well when you said this earlier ...
That sounds very much like someone trying to tell us that assuming there are aliens species "buzzing" around us is the obvious position to take.
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Not so, 3rdvogon; what you left out in quoting my post is the final "IMHO."
So, not only am I
not telling you it's the obvious position to take (it's my opinion), I didn't apply Fermi's paradox as "proof" as you had suggested.
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I say that given the unconvincing "evidence" to the contrary it is equally credible to assume that we may well be one of the most advanced species as yet to evolve in our Galaxy. The few that have progressed further than us may only be a little more advanced and certainly not able to buzz around us now or 4,000 years ago. Quite frankly to suggest otherwise is an act of faith not reasoning. Of course we might in distant millennia discover that we were the very first species to transport itself beyond the atmosphere of it's home planet, who knows. There could be aliens "buzzing" around the stars, but to claim that it is more probable than we are the first, is to apply reasoning that is not supported by hard fact.
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And so you have "hard fact" supporting a higher probability that we are the first?
Or do you base that notion on your perception of the "unconvincing evidence to the contrary?"
To me, suggesting we may be the first and/or only advanced civ in the galaxy flies in the face of the copernican principle.