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Originally Posted by Tensor
The warpage of space is gravity. No warpage, no gravity, but still space. There is a difference.
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I disagree, space itself can not exist with out energy and therfore gravity. Energy not only warps space-time but it is space-time. You need to razor out the concept of space without energy as it is just too complicated and is not detectable. If it is not detectable then razor it out. In any case I dont think it can exist.
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Originally Posted by Tensor
But, there could be places where the differing amounts of energy, from different points, would cancel out the warpage of space, at a particular point. Space would not be warped. Then you would have space with no gravity.
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Again I disagree. remember we are talking about space-time ... so even if somewhere in the universe you could find a perfect 360 degrees of perfectly balanced gravity ... you still have its effect in the time dimension which I think would be the combination of all of the forces that made up the 360 degrees ... so the the will always be a scalar value for the time dimension.
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Originally Posted by Tensor
Mathematically, energy is conserved because of a symmetry in time. There is no corresponding symmetry for space, and thus no conservation of space.
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space = energy ... space is part of energy ... the same way you can not remove the sun from the solar system you can not remove the space that was curved from the sun ... The only way to do that is to remove the sun.
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Originally Posted by Tensor
Nope, all you have to do is solve the equations for a point in spacetime. Find out how all the energy affects space at that point. The curvature at other points have nothing to do with the curvature at that particular point, if the energy has already been taken into account.
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OK I admit I am still working out the math on this one. But what I want to test is to see that if you curve space near an object does space have to uncurve somewhere else. The deal is that space is formed by energy as energy can not be destroyed space can not either ... if energy begins bending space more in one place then it has to bend it less in another ...