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Originally Posted by tommac
I guess I was leading to the idea that by smart people supporting non-smart people and helping them survive the whole idea of evolution short ciruits or stalls. For example we help people survive that should die via our advances in the medical industry. By saving those people we bring the traits of sickness back into the gene pool. I think there could be instances that I could bring up with intellegence but I do not wish to offend. My point is not that we should let those people die but that we should take note that we are working against nature.
As a side point here ... we are getting way too good at medicine. It seems that sometimes we keep people alive way too long ... way past the point when they are productive in any sense. Past the point where they can care for themselves, or even know where or who they are. This is really not natural and I feel sorry for these people and scared that I may one day be in this state of vegitablism and not have the power to tell people to pull the fabulous plug already.
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Ok so,
Let's kill me because I have multiple limb deformations and some psychological troubles.
Let's go back to eugenism and kill everyone sick, weak, "DNA defect" etc...
Let's go back to modern nazi barbarism and pretend to be God and "objectively" judge people based on their intelligence, muscles, DNA instead of their acts.
Let's fall on naturalistic logical fallacy because "everything that is natural is good" - that way we would still occasionally eat our children because some animals do and so it's "natural".
Let's kill terminally or cripplingly ill and cut down on our medicine because of course it is more right than to try to find cure for their conditions and bring them backs as fully functional members of the human society.
Let's isolate and deny genetically ill people health care because of course gene therapy is not natural, just let them die in pain instead.
When people start to think "logically" and like some emotionless machines, they became
monsters.
Men is not a part of the animal kingdom and no so called naturalist will try to tell me otherwise, he belongs to the nature but animal principles are not for him.
"Rationalists", why are you so worried about "degeneration of the evolution of men" when it is far more imporatant to help those people who need it to became more functional members of human society?Help those who have their capabilities
below average first and then realize your transhumanistic pipe dreams, not by becoming animals again and letting everyone who is not perfect to die, nature will never give better capabilities to us anyways because we
simply don't need them, if we want them then help weak first and then genetically modify yourself to perfection.
Eugenics is appliciable only for predatory animals.
I am getting
SEVERE CREEPS from what the moral relativism and applying animal kingdom laws to us can do to human soul and reasoning.
Logic is not reasoning, it is just approximation that becomes murderously cruel if applied without a lot of right emotions, good and heart.
Rather than secretly fantatizing about killing disabled and dumb like a psychopath, try to create some scheme by what disabilities can be cured
IF YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF SO HELLISHLY SMART!!
Yeah it is ****ingly personal to me because I myself I am suffering from multiple severe disabilities, have severely mentally ill grandmother that is "crazy" but has a good heart and I love her, several of my friends have died of terminal diseases and some sick rationalizing **** on the internet that thinks of himself as smarter than 80 percents of humanity implies that letting us die or even outright killing us would be a good thing.