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Originally Posted by JonClarke
"Skipper" used this Mars Express HRSC image http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/...leCrater_H.jpg (1.2 MB). Don't try to look for it on "Mars anomaly research" - I got a virus from that site this morning.
It's not suprisingly that there are compression artifacts in that image. It is a composite e of three colour channels and the nadir panchromatic image, compressed to be internet friendly, and then draped over a DEM and rotated to an oblique view. They are easy to see if you fiddle with the contrats in any image editor.
"Skipper" not picking this up must come under the title of willful ignorance.
Jon
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Hm, I see. I find it rather curious that the artifacts look so much like buildings of some sort with possibly windows here and there or for all I know they are launching outlets for winged martians. Little roadway looking things that seem to be set up with some planning as opposed to random vertical or horizontal lines. Above where you would not expect to see any structures there are none. Rocky craggy areas devoid of anything but rock. Why are there no artifacts there?
I am well aware that some people will go to extreme lengths to make their point, even if it is based on a falsehood. This Skipper has devoted eight years of his life to this project. He is neither dumb nor ignorant. If these compression artifacts are so easily debunked, I don't see why he would continue. He only recently has accepted advertisments so he hasn't been in it for the doe. He is writing a book, I guess I would too if I had invested eight years of my life on a project. I just don't know Jon. I would really like to see a compression artifact from another planet or the moon that looks anything like the one in question. The examples I have seen to date don't cut it. I have seen other photos of his that seem just as remarkable and I just do not understand why the artifacts that appear to be structures, dams, plant life are always where you would expect them to be and if they are indeed just artifacts why aren't the rough and rocky areas where you would not expect to build anything look so normal, barren and free of artifacts?
There are hundreds of these photos and Skipper is not the only one making them available. As Jay told me earlier it is Skipper's obligation to prove his claims. He is correct, but Skipper doesn't feel he has anything to prove. He explains his opinions at length and then some and I have never heard or read anyone say anything other then they are just compression artifacts. Also, wouldn't compression artifacts tend to look alike. I have seen what has been depicted as lakes, islands on lakes, big tubes, little tubes, hundreds of miles of some kind of tubular life form or geology maybe, going over and under one another and converging on central areas that seem to be structures or something. I am not saying anything is what it appears to be but the variety of different images presented by Skipper and others is very interesting to say the least. I tend to beleive there is something to these photos. If I am wrong I will be the first to admit it. Maybe I just lack the scientific expertise to make the right call. If they are just artifacts I want to see them on the moon, in the Sahara Desert and in the dried up oceans on mars. If there are artifact here, there should be artifacts there . . .