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Old 12-May-2008, 07:25 AM
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[QUOYE=Acolyte]
But if we're inside the BH, the CMBR would also be rotating along with us.[/quote]

Yes close by it would, but 'way over there', we would see sideways motion.

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But what if we came into being already inside the singularity?
What size do you think a 'singualrity' is... Sorry, couldn't resist.

When a Black Hole forms, due to a Gravitational collapse (First stars were modeled, and then Massive Black Holes in Galaxies, which they still do NOT know how those form!!! But I do!), an event horizon forms, that then 'spirals down'.

Now, with no models at all, they would just spiral all the way down to 0 dimension.

But, if Black holes are real, and I believe that they do physically exist, and are therefore "Real", then there must be a 'tending toward 0 solution to the downward spiral.

Mainstream has worked this out, and for a Non-rotating Black Hole, it turns our that there is a solution that ends in a "Point" Singularity. That is called a Schwarzschild Black Hole solution. However, If the Black Hole does rotate, then the solution, tending toward 0, is a "Ring" Singularity, and that is called a Kerr Black Hole.

That "Ring" is very very very TINY, and is at the very bottom of the spiraling, tending toward 0.

AND, since we have never found even one Non-rotating Black Hole in 70+ years, the solution for the "point Singularity" is mathematically MOOT!

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Your presumption that we somehow came through the event horizon to be inside the 'universe BH'
Sorry, here I was more or less ranting a little about how the 'scientists' are Sci-Fy'ing what is happening in our "real" SMBH's!!!

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So, if a universe out there in the multiverse collapsed in a big crunch, forming a truly super-massive BH, then the speculation would be that our entire universe has developed from the moment of the big crunch.
Sorry, but this is a common confusion...the expanding /contracting/static universe has nothing to do with being "IN" a Huge Black Hole....the Horizons that mainstream uses, are NOT Black Hole Event Horizons.
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