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Old 17-May-2008, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cjl View Post
Sloppy?

Actually, in the solar system, the distinction is quite clear (and we don't have any others to study in sufficient detail). There are no discovered objects that blur the boundary at all. Here is a plot of the mass ratios of some objects in our solar system (object mass vs other stuff in its orbital zone not gravitationally bound to it). See if you can find the obvious cutoff.

There is actually far more ambiguity as to when an object has truly achieved hydrostatic equilibrium than there is in this.
The sloppy parts of the definition ("sloppy" is the word used by Alan Stern) are: a) the vague concept of "clearing its orbit," which if applied literally, could exclude all the planets in our solar system because none fully clears its orbital fields of nearby asteroids, and Neptune does not clear its orbit of Pluto; b) the definition of a "dwarf planet" as not being a planet at all.

The further an object is from its parent star, the less likely it is to clear its orbit. This means if we find a Mars-sized object in the Kuiper Belt, according to the IAU definition, that object is not a planet while the real Mars is. There is an obvious problem here in that the definition looks solely at where the object is rather than what it is.

Geophysically, Pluto and Eris are much more like planets than like asteroids. Yes, they are different from the other eight, but that simply means they fall under a different type or subcategory of planet. There is no ambiguity that these objects and Ceres have in fact achieved hydrostatic equilibrium.

Astronomical definitions of other objects, such as stars and galaxies, cover a very broad range including many subcategories. Stars are not demoted because they are part of binary systems and therefore don't "clear their orbits." Tiny dwarf galaxies orbiting with the Milky Way are still considered galaxies even though the Milky Way could be said to control their orbits. Why should the definition of planet be so narrowly limited in a way that other astronomical definitions are not?
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