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Old 24-August-2003, 07:17 PM
DoctorDick DoctorDick is offline
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Default "Against the mainstream" thoughts on explanation!

This forum has apparently gained some inquisitive, intelligent and decently educated people . I have been attempting to find someone on the web intelligent and educated enough to follow my thoughts who would be interested in doing so. So far, that effort has been pretty much of a waste of time ](*,) . Most of the "against the mainstream" issues posted on this forum in the past have been rather thoughtless comedic presentations. I hope that has changed a bit. As an introduction to my perspective, I would like someone to go through the following logical progression and point out where they believe I have made a mistake in my logic :-? .

1) Our understanding of the universe is based on information gained through our senses 8-[ .

2.) Our senses are preprocessed by our subconscious so as to yield the mental image of reality perceived by our conscious awareness .

As an example of what I am referring to here, I point out that, while I am typing this, I see before me the screen of a monitor at about arms reach displaying the words you are reading . Now, according to the modern scientific explanation of how this comes about, the lens of my eye focus an image of that screen on the retina of my eye where nerves (excited by photons) transmit a message to my brain \/ . Somehow, my brain then creates an illusion of that screen before me :-k .

Certainly this transformation is performed by my subconscious as I have utterly no conscious awareness of the activities required to produce that result 8-[ . Try as I might, I cannot "perceive" this as an image on the retina of my eye nor as electrically firing nerves in my brain #-o ; I can only "perceive" it as a real object about two feet in front of me . It seems to me to be undeniable that my perceptions of reality are all illusions created by my subconscious [-( . That is to say, I sense the illusions my subconscious mind puts before my conscious awareness and that these illusions include the fundamental meanings of those senses themselves :roll: .

Please note that I do not regard this as evidence that reality is an illusion! There are a lot of people out there who stop at this point with the belief that they have demonstrated reality must be an illusion 8) . I think that step is a bit premature. There is another possibility here.

3) Reality exists and there is a serious conundrum here as to how our subconscious has managed to perform this feat #-o .

Our mental image of the universe is constructed from data received through mechanisms (our senses) which are also part of that image. I believe that any scientist worth his salt would hold it as obvious that one could not possibly model the universe until after some information about that universe were obtained. The problem with that position is that we cannot possibly model our senses (the fundamental source of that information) until after we have modeled the universe.

This implies that our subconscious has constructed a mental image of the universe given totally undefined information transcribed by a totally undefined process. What is important here is that the problem is solvable; it has to be solvable as our subconscious mind has solved it.

Everyone in the scientific community to whom I have raised this issue has dismissed it as meaningless trivia and utterly refused to even discuss the issue with me. Now I would accept it being dismissed as being a problem beyond our capabilities as that would be a very rational contention, but it seems to me that to simply refuse to admit its existence is irrational. To set any aspect of reality above examination is to scuttle rational science.

I believe I have discovered a solution to that very problem and that the solution implies some rather astounding conclusions. Either I am right or I am wrong! All I ask is a little help in determining that issue :P !