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Old 24-August-2003, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DoctorDick
Well, the response was quite more volume than I expected, but quite below the intellectual level I had hoped for.
That's okay, your posts haven't reached a very high intellectual level either. I'll give you a piece of advice: Being condensending your posts does not make you seem more intelligent, it just makes your choice of names more obvious.

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I'm not exactly sure what this great insight of yours is supposed to be. That our senses have developed ways to model external reality in our minds? This is not exactly news! Generations of philosophers have been pondering it.

Are you shocked, shocked I tell you, that our nervous systems have this ability? How could they not? We have to live in the real world, after all. We have to find water, food, shelter, and mates, avoid predators and hazardous environments, and generally get along. Evolution has been fine-tuning those senses for a billion years. Any organisms that did a poor job of "remote sensing" left no descendants.
I think you just missed the entire issue! Come back when you figure it out. Hint: If you read the last paragraph, you will see that I wish to discuss a particular solution!
You never raised an issue. You pointed out something that people have been wondering for ages, and then you said you have a solution. You made a statement and that's it. For it to be an issue you would have had to make an assertion of some sort, for instance telling us what your solution is.

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Originally Posted by DoctorDick
3) Reality exists and there is a serious conundrum here as to how our subconscious has managed to perform this feat .

Our mental image of the universe is constructed from data received through mechanisms (our senses) which are also part of that image. I believe that any scientist worth his salt would hold it as obvious that one could not possibly model the universe until after some information about that universe were obtained. The problem with that position is that we cannot possibly model our senses (the fundamental source of that information) until after we have modeled the universe.

This implies that our subconscious has constructed a mental image of the universe given totally undefined information transcribed by a totally undefined process. What is important here is that the problem is solvable; it has to be solvable as our subconscious mind has solved it.
What's the problem? Just because you cannot see objects as images on your retina instead of as a phyiscal object you determine it to be an illusion?

We are a product of reality, reality is not a product of us.
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