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Originally Posted by damian1727
works properly ???ideal laws of physics???
lets just keep open minds and rely on science to let us know what we know and be big enough to know what we dont
you sound as if you think further investigation is not worth it
folk always put something called god into gaps in knowlege....so what?
lets push the gaps back
ultimatley you seem to be asking the ancient question WHY SOMETHING AND NOT NOTHING?
for now i live with the fact that NOTHING is unstable and liable to fracture into something  the fact that this question is along way away from being know should not stop us thinking
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Damian, it was
you who introduced the fine-tuning problem into this thread, and once this has been introduced, it sends the discussion tumbling inevitably towards the "why something and not nothing" question.
I was just suggesting a number of alternative possible solutions to the fine-tuning problem, but all they do is push the question further away - the question is still there, lurking!
Now, dcl is happy to leave the question unanswered, and I tend to agree with him, but I see no problem in investigating further if you want, which is why I mentioned things like M-Theory and Loop Quantum Gravity. M-Theory allows multiple universes ('branes bang together and cause universes), and Loop Quantum Gravity allows a sort of cyclical universe (no big-bang, but a previous contracting universe).