dcl all the posts in my post below speedfreeks where aimed at him

dcl you said... I think these values have the values that they do merely because we wouldn't be here to ask the question if they were different,,,,,

which i translated into ... just to say well im here so that explains it...

anyway i tend to agree with all of you great posts guys esp cougar ,,,thanks 4 the
Alex Vilenkin mention.... i like this idea..