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Originally Posted by dcl
Cougar: Here [in runningn the movie backward] your answer is incorrect. We can't get anywhere near 10-43 sec. From my recent reading on the subject, many major names in the field all seem to agree on how the movie would rewind back to 1 second.
dcl: I suggest you broaden your reading. There are any number of respected sources that give that 10-43 figure. That figure comes from the Standard Model of particle physics, not from accelerator experiments.
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Ha ha! Now that is truly funny. Would you like to peruse my Recent Reading list?
# Chaos, Making a New Science [1987] -- James Gleick
# Complexity, Life at the Edge of Chaos [1992] -- Roger Lewin
# Complexification -- John Casti
# Journey to the Great Attractor [1994]-- Alan Dressler
# The Science of Fractal Images -- Peitgen, Saupe, eds.
# Hyperspace, A Scientific Odyssey Through Parallel Universes, Time Warps, and the 10th Dimension [1994] -- Michio Kaku
# The Matter Myth -- Paul Davies
# The Cosmic Blueprint, New Discoveries in Nature's Creative Ability to Order the Universe [1988] -- Paul Davies
# God and the New Physics -- Paul Davies
# The Red Limit [1977]-- Timothy Ferris
# Coming of Age in the Milky Way -- Timothy Ferris
# The Mind's Sky, Human Intelligence in a Cosmic Context -- Timothy Ferris
# The Key to the Universe [1977] -- Nigel Calder
# QED, The Strange Theory of Light and Matter -- Richard Feynman
# Surely Your Joking, Mr. Feynman! -- Richard Feynman
# What Do You Care What Other People Think? -- Richard Feynman
# Cosmic Catastrophes [1989] -- Clark Chapman, David Morrison
# Searching For Certainty, What Scientists Can Know About the Future [1990] -- John L. Casti
# Dreams of a Final Theory [1992] -- Steven Weinberg
# The Cosmic Code [1982] -- Heinz Pagels
# Sympathetic Vibrations, Reflections on Physics as a Way of Life [1985] -- K.C. Cole
# The God Particle, If the Universe is the Answer, What is the Question? [1993] -- Leon Lederman with Dick Teresi
# Genius, The Life and Science of Richard Feynman [1995] -- James Gleick
# At Home in the Universe, The Search for the Laws of Self-Organization
and Complexity [1995] -- Stuart Kauffman
# The Origin of The Universe [1994] -- John D. Barrow
# The Quark and the Jaguar, Adventures in the Simple and the Complex [1995] --
Murray Gell-Mann
# The Last Three Minutes, Conjectures About the Ultimate Fate of the Universe [1994] --
Paul Davies
# Flyby, The Interplanetary Odyssey of Voyager 2 [1987] -- Joel Davis
# The Nemesis Affair, A Story of the Death of Dinosaurs and the Ways of Science [1986] -- David M. Raup
# Bully for Brontosaurus -- Stephen Jay Gould
# Eight Little Piggies, Reflections in Natural History [1993] -- Stephen Jay Gould
# On a Piece of Chalk [1868, republished 1967] -- Thomas Henry Huxley
# Cosmic Coincidences, Dark Matter, Mankind, and Anthropic Cosmology [1989] --
John Gribbin and Martin Rees
# The Collapse of Chaos, Discovering Simplicity in a Complex World [1994] --
Jack Cohen and Ian Stewart
# The Milky Way, Fifth Edition [1941-1981] -- Bart Bok, Priscilla Bok
# A Hundred Billion Stars [1984] -- Mario Rigutti
# The Lighter Side of Gravity [1982] -- Jayant V. Narlikar
# Chaos in the Cosmos [1996] -- Barry Parker
# A Brief History of Time -- Stephen Hawking
# Black Holes and Baby Universes [1993] -- Stephen Hawking
# Exploring the Galaxies [1976] -- Simon Mitton
# The Three Big Bangs, Comet Crashes, Exploding Stars,
and the Creation of the Universe [1996] -- Dauber and Muller
# Mysteries of the Milky Way [1991] -- Goldsmith and Cohen
# The Edges of Science [1990] -- Richard Morris
# The Privilege of Being a Physicist [1989] -- Victor Weisskopf
# Feynman's Lost Lecture [1996]
# Cosmic Rays, Tracking Particles From Outer Space [1989] -- Michael Friedlander
# Quarks, The Stuff of Matter [1983] -- Harald Fritzsch
# How Nature Works, The Science of Self-Organized Criticality [1996] -- Per Bak
# In The Beginning, After COBE and Before The Big Bang [1993] -- John Gribbin
# The Secret Melody [1995] -- Trinh Xuan Thuan
# Neils Bohr, A Centenary Volume [1985] -- French and Kennedy, eds.
# The Particle Garden, Our Universe
as Understood by Particle Physicists [1995] -- Gordon Kane
# The Edge of the Unknown,
101 Things You Don't Know About Science
And No One Else Does Either [1996] -- James Trefil
# Einstein's Legacy -- Julian Schwinger
# The Whole Shebang,
A State-of-the-Universe(s) Report [1997] -- Timothy Ferris
# Creation, The Story of the Origin and Evolution of the Universe [1988] -- Barry Parker
# In Quest of Quasars, An Introduction to Stars and Starlike Objects [1969] -- Ben Bova
# The Twin Dimensions, Inventing Time & Space [1986] -- Geza Szamosi
# Blind Watchers of the Sky, The People and Ideas that Shaped Our View of the Universe [1996] -- Rocky Kolb
# Heisenberg Probably Slept Here, The Lives, Times, and Ideas of the Greatest Physicists of the 20th Century [1997] -- Richard P. Brennan
# Beyond the Known Universe, From Dwarf Stars to Quasars [1974] -- I.M. Levitt
# The Dark Side of the Universe [1988] -- James Trefil
# Perfect Symmetry [1985] -- Heinz Pagels
# The Very First Light, The True Inside Story of the Scientific Journey Back to the Dawn of the Universe [1996] -- John C. Mather and John Boslough
# The First Three Minutes,
A Modern View of the Origin of the Universe [1977] -- Steven Weinberg
# Scientific Autobiography and Other Papers [1949] -- Max Planck
# The Cosmos from Space [1987] -- David H. Clark
# Rain of Iron and Ice, the very real threat of comet and asteroid bombardment [1996] -- John S. Lewis
# Worlds Unnumbered, the Search for Extrasolar Planets [1997] -- Donald Goldsmith
# Why People Believe Weird Things, pseudoscience, superstition, and other confusions of our time [1997] -- Michael Shermer
# The Threat and the Glory [1959-90] -- Peter B. Medawar
# Gšdel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid [1979] -- Douglas Hofstadter
# The Inflationary Universe, the quest for a new theory of cosmic origins [1997] -- Alan H. Guth
# Wrinkles in Time [1993] -- George Smoot, Keay Davidson
# The Meaning of It All, Thoughts of a Citizen-Scientist [1998] -- Richard P. Feynman
# The Light at the Edge of the Universe [1993] -- Michael D. Lemonick
# Chaos and Harmony [2001] -- Trinh Xuan Thuan
# The Fifth Miracle, The Search for the Origin of Life [1998] -- Paul Davies
# Paradigms Regained, A Further Exploration of the Mysteries of Modern Science [2000] -- John Casti
# The Essence of Chaos [1993] -- Edward N. Lorenz
# Thinking in Complexity, The Complex Dynamics of Matter, Mind, and Mankind - 3rd Ed. [1997] -- Klaus Mainzer
# Gravitation and Cosmology, Proceedings of the ICGC Conference Held at IUCAA, Pune, India, in December 1995 [1995] -- Dhurandhar and Padmanabhan (eds.)
# The Social Meaning of Modern Biology, From Social Darwinism to Sociobiology [1986] -- Howard L. Kaye
# Origins of Life [1985] -- Freeman Dyson
# In Search of the Ultimate Building Blocks [1997] -- Gerard 't Hooft
# The Large, the Small and the Human Mind [1997] -- Roger Penrose
# The Structure of Scientific Revolutions [1962, 1970] -- Thomas S. Kuhn
# Beyond the Black Hole, Stephen Hawking's Universe [1985] -- John Boslough
# The Thermodynamics of Pizza, Essays on Science and Everyday Life [1991] -- Harold J. Morowitz
# Billions and Billions, Thoughts on Life and Death at the Brink of the Millenium [1997] -- Carl Sagan
# Beyond the Quantum Paradox [1994] -- Lazar Mayants
# Guns, Germs, and Steel, The Fates of Human Societies [1997] -- Jared Diamond
# Einstein, A Centenary Volume, [1979] -- A.P. French, ed.
# Science and Beyond [1986] -- Steven Rose and Lisa Appignanesi, eds.
# Science a la Mode, Physical Fashions and Fictions [1989] -- Tony Rothman
# Goodbye, Descartes, The End of Logic and the Search for a New Cosmology of the Mind [1997] --Keith Devlin
# The Runaway Universe, the Race to Find the Future of the Cosmos [2000] -- Donald Goldsmith
# General Relativity From A to B [1978] -- Robert Geroch
# Quantum Reality, Beyond the New Physics [1985] -- Nick Herbert
# The Flamingo's Smile, Reflections in Natural History [1985] -- Stephen Jay Gould
# Science, Computers, and People, From the Tree of Mathematics [1986] -- Stanislaw Ulam; Marc C. Reynolds, Gian-Carlo Rota, Eds.
# The Flight From Science and Reason, Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences, Vol 775 [1996] -- edited by Paul R. Gross, Norman Levitt, and Martin W. Lewis
# Doing Science, The Reality Club [1991] -- edited by John Brockman [not recommended]
# A Tour of the Calculus [1995] -- David Berlinski
# A Beautiful Mind, The Life of Mathematical Genius and Nobel Laureate John Nash [1998] -- Sylvia Nasar
# Euler, The Master of Us All [1999] -- William Dunham
# Thomas Kuhn: A Philosophical History for Our Times [2000] -- Steve Fuller
# The Fabric of the Cosmos; Space, Time, and the Texture of Reality [2004] -- Brian Greene
# The Life of the Cosmos [1997] -- Lee Smolin
# The Universe at Midnight, Observations Illuminating the Cosmos [2001] -- Ken Croswell
# Galaxies and Quasars [1979] -- William J. Kaufman
# Conflict in the Cosmos, Fred Hoyle's Life in Science [2005] -- Simon Mitton
# Big Bang, the origin of the universe [2004] -- by Simon Singh
# How The Universe Got Its Spots, Diary of a finite time in a finite space [2002] -- Janna Levin
# From Quarks to the Cosmos, Tools of Discovery [1995] -- Leon Lederman, David Schramm
# The Big Questions, Probing the promise and limits of science [2002] -- Richard Morris
# Alpha and Omega, The search for the beginning and end of the universe [2004] -- Charles Seife
# Supersymmetry, Unveiling the ultimate laws of nature [2000] -- Gordon Kane
# Black Holes and Time Warps, Einstein's Outrageous Legacy [1994] -- Kip Thorne
# The Universe, the 11th Dimension, and Everything, What we know and how we know it [1999] -- Richard Morris
# Faster, The Acceleration of Just about Everything [2000] -- James Gleick
# Before the Beginning, Our Universe and Others [1997] -- Martin Rees
# The Life of the Cosmos [1999] -- Lee Smolin
# The Cosmic Landscape String theory and the illusion of intelligent design [2006] -- Leonard Susskind
# Chasing Hubble's Shadows, The Search for Galaxies at the Edge of Time [2006] -- Jeff Kanipe
# Cosmic Clouds: Birth, death, and recycling in the galaxy [1997] -- James Kaler
# Many Worlds in One [2006] -- Alex Vilenkin
# Endless Universe, Beyond the Big Bang [2007] -- Paul Steinhardt and Neil Turok
# Origins: How the Planets, Stars, Galaxies, and the Universe Began [2006] -- by Stephen Eales
# Poetry of the Universe: A Mathematical Exploration of the Cosmos [1995] -- by Robert Osserman
# Extreme Stars, At the Edge of Creation [2001] -- by James Kaler
Add to that The Trouble With Physics by Lee Smolin and Madmen Dream of Turing Machines by astrophysicist Janna Levin.
I believe the misunderstanding about what we currently know when the universe was 10 -43 seconds old is yours.
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Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
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