Hey Bart. Another spirited albeit ill fated thread. I assure you I am not trying to be a smart a-- here, nor am I talking down to you. I just for the life of me cannot understand how you can go from a person just interested in a new subject on June 14 to "they are farming us" on June 16. Most of your belief seems to be based on Karla Turner's experiences. I am a bit of a woo and I even find it hard to believe that this subject and the last on another thread (your sighting) is something you just became interested in. Have you participated on another forum regarding these issues? Just curious Bart--joe