I really will quit bothering you now.

Go or stay. Just quit saying one thing and doing another. It smacks of drama, and we can do without that.

For the first time in my life I look to science for an answer and find failure.

The problem is that you're not looking to science. You're looking at the caricature of science you've drawn as the straw-man you're going to disembowel in order to maintain the comfort in believing you saw something fantastic. What you think science is or should be is nothing like what it is. You've been given references to some of the best writings on the subject. I will also add Popper's Conjectures and Refutations.

Not big into CT and do not acuse you of being gov shills.

Thanks, but heard that before. What will you say tomorrow? You can't seem to make up your mind from day to day. One day I'm on your good side and the other I'm your worst enemy. Your inconsistent approach is irritating.

You might not think so from some of my posts, but I'm pretty good at solving problems and finding answers.

That doesn't matter to me if you're not willing or able to display that skill here.

Just frustrated at not finding an answer that covers all the issues.

The problem is that along with "all the issues" you include the unfounded claims of fringe theorists as if they were fact. You're trying to solve the problem the way they want it solved, which results in a quandary because that's what they want to happen. Answers don't get them appearance fees and attention; only continued controversy. Hence their approach is meant to perpetuate controversy, not determine answers.

I realize what all your answers are before I ask the questions. No hard feelings about it either.

What do you mean? You recently subjected us to a long harangue about how inadequate my and others' answers have been and how malevolent we are for proposing them. Sorry, you don't get to ask questions to solicit the answers you expect, then sound off about how inappropriate they are, then tell people you're not a troll.

If I needed an engineering solution for an aircraft I would consult you. On this I will have to look elsewhere.

The problem with that attitude is the failure to realize that the same rules of physical law and investigative method apply. Other places will make you feel better. But few places will get you closer to the truth. You will have to choose.

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