Hi,
$pacemonkey. Welcome to the board.
The easy way to think is that its all just a load of crap.
It's even easier just to believe it without paying attention to the facts.
Sure anyone with a telescope would surely be able to spot such a large object in the sky right? Well what if it is a brown dwarf that is almost hidden in a fog of dust coming from behind the sun?
Nothing can stay hidden behind the Sun, because we keep moving around it.
Would such an object still be seen so easily?
A huge dust cloud would make it even
easier to see. It would reflect light from the Sun, glow in the infrared, and obscure stars behind it.
You would have to think it would be rather difficult to detect. It would most likely disturb other planets in our solar system, but when? How close would it have to be to cause a noticeable disruption?
If it was large enough to be a problem, and close enough to get here by 2012, it would
already be causing significant disruptions.
If a large object like this were to make a near approach it could very easily cause a pole shift.
Why, exactly? What sort of torque could such a body put on the Earth, and how? Hint: gravity won't do it. Magnetism is too weak.
So I looked up previous events in the earths history that could suggest a pole shift occurred. I found this http://www.crystalinks.com/crustal.html . This suggests that approx 12,000 years ago mastodons that were living in tropical regions were suddenly frozen in what is now near Siberia. I found that to be rather interesting.
Except that the myth that mastodons were suddenly frozen is just that - a myth. Moreover, such a sudden and spectacular shift would not have flash frozen anything anyway, but it would have pretty much destroyed everything on the surface of the Earth.
Also as we all know, the new South Pole telescope.
What about it? Why is it more significant than any other Southern Hemisphere telescope?
Are they really using that to observe our ever expanding universe, and how it is speeding up?
Yes. Which has nothing whatsoever to do with "Nibiru".
What about this new doomsday vault built near Norway? http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe...eds/index.html
This is supposed to house almost every species of seed known to exist. This was just recently completed.
So? I'm not just being disputatious. I'm pointing out that its existence - it's one of several - is no evidence for "Nibiru".
So now the question, would this be a favorable location if there was going to be a pole shift?
No location on the face of the Earth would be favorable; the sort of "pole shift" the Nibiru proponents like to talk about it would likely release enough energy to
melt the Earth's crust.
I'm not trying to prove or disprove anything. I just read alot of posts where people want proof of something and it was these things that really struck my attention and made me wonder. I'm not a die hard believer but I am definitely curious.
I'm just trying to identify some of the nonsense behind the "Nibiru" claims, as well as the
non sequitirs which are frequently brought up as "evidence". Hope this helps.
I do honestly believe that if such a catastrophic event occurred that our government would withhold this information for obvious reasons. Mass hysteria would set in, people would quit their jobs, money would become useless.
Which would happen anyway when the thing inevitably was spotted by amateur astronomers long before it came by. Even if "the government" wanted to keep it a secret, there's no chance they could do so for long.
Which reminds me of Dave Barry's observation, "Every time the government tries to do anything secretly, as in the Iran-contra arms deal, it winds up displaying all the finesse and stealth of an exploding cigar at a state funeral."
The only things that would become of any value would be radiation suits, food and a safe hideaway away from the coasts.
The scenario proposed by "Nibiru" enthusiasts would render all such things useless. But relax. "Nibiru" is not coming to get us.