I'll have to admit, there are a few people older than I am on this board, but not many. Yet I consider myself middle aged. I'm old enough to have watched a real live Apollo launch, and vividly remember the live televised broadcast of Neil Armstrong's first step on the Moon.

I only remember Quasar TVs from the commercials - we never actually had one.

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If I set the budget, we'd have Ares and more. Unfortunately, I don't set the budget, and Ares is just too expensive and too far out for us to accomplish our goals within the budget we were given.

If we halt the ISS, all versions of Ares, and transport Orion and Altair aboard DIRECTv3's Jupiter family of Shuttle-Derived Launch Vehicles, we just might make it back to the Moon by 2020.