Wow that was quick! Will have to be quick myself as I have to shoot off:
Neverfly: The ATM claim I'm making is that there is no quality life has that is not replicated by some other non living system, and hence life is not unique (and has no origin), although the systems found on earth have such an abundance of energy and organics to work with they appear to be unique. I mention titan because it has a lot of organics interacting for the same length of time as earth, but with much less available energy; so there may be systems on titan that mimic one or two of the qualities we find in 'life' in isolation, proving that there is nothing unique about life.

Cran: yes I did, thanks!

Lepton: life had no origin, because life is a collection of traits, each trait has an origin, but they don't arrive as a package.

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