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One reason I am as adamant about genetics playing the larger role is that it has been borne out time and again in research. Twin studies, where they study twin siblings separated at birth, are quite revealing - personality, aptitude, talents, temperment, preferred spouse body type and career field - all turn out to be basically identical even though the twins were raised in vastly different environments.
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I guess everything I carefully described about the difference between individuals and a population slipped past you. They're different, and this thread is about
populations. I doubt anyone has doubt that intellectual capabilities of individuals can be passed genetically to offspring in some cases. Male
or female offspring, by the way-- that's the on-topic point you keep forgetting.
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(Edit : And since I have a feeling Ken G will try to paint this as an isolated case and thus "inadmissible" :
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The problem is not that it is "inadmissable", it is that it is
irrelevant and off topic. It comes as no surprise that males have a Y chromosome, and females do not, and there are consequences of this. The thread is about what those consequences are, as a population, and
what evidence exists to make clalims about math aptitude. I don't see your recent posts advancing that issue one iota. Please try to stay on topic.
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She agreed that this was the case based on what she'd learned in school, and that no it wasn't sexist at all, it was just reality.
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It's sad how misinformed she is. Do her the favor of letting her read the OP, and heck, the rest of the thread too. She should not labor under the misconceptions her "education" has handed her, it's very unfair to her and sets up the problem of the "self-fulfilling prophecy".
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It's hard to go against what you've been raised to believe - no matter what the evidence confronting you happens to be.
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Yup, that's precisely the problem here-- you have one thing right.